Wesley Clark AHEAD of Bush?; Pivitol debate could "make or break" the General (according to MSNBC)

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http://www.msnbc.com/news/970515.asp?0cv=CB10

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 — I know that what I am about to say may strike you as ridiculous. Political junkies will be justified in wondering whether I am engaging in hype, since I am a contract player with NBC and its cable affiliates. But I’ll say it anyway: The CNBC-Wall Street Journal debate this week in New York City could be a make-or-break event for Wesley Clark and, therefore, a pivotal moment in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

CLARK IS ON the launching pad, instantly ahead of the pack and running even or ahead of President Bush in new test match-ups. This week he either takes off or begins falling back to earth like the other mortals.
This already has been a vintage political season — meaning wild and unpredictable — and it’s only just begun. A few months ago, Bush looked nearly invincible in his flight suit. Now he looks like a guy whose ankles are weighed down by concrete blocks (jobs and Iraq). The gyrations of politics are everywhere. California is in terminal meltdown; political civil war rages in Texas; and perhaps the most important participants in the 2004 election — the leaders of al-Qaida — are waiting in the wings to do who knows what.




The Democratic Debate
Thursday's debate will be carried live on CNBC from 4-5:30 p.m. ET and rebroadcast in its entirety on MSNBC at 9 p.m. ET.




And now we have a Democratic presidential contest that seems to defy all attempts (by journalists and spinners) to give it shape: 10, count them, 10, candidates, all railing against Bush, but struggling to propound a vision of what should come after him; a press corps more suffocating, numerous and wired than ever, yet seemingly blind to the forest in these trees; an electorate bored and jaded, yet somehow (I think) yearning to be inspired.
This is a good time to take a look at the “horse race” as it is about to begin in earnest. Everything to this point has been gamesmanship on the farm and in the paddock. I know this is the biggest cliché in political journalism — comparing a presidential campaign to the Kentucky Derby. But, with such a large field, it seems to be the right analogy. Plus, I began my career in Louisville, and covered the Derby like everyone else in the newsroom.
Here’s how I think things line up, at least among the leading horses:

WESLEY CLARK
He’s a kitchen match that could set the woods ablaze. Clark has the most valuable possession in presidential campaigning: a BIG Reason to Run. It is: a coherent and detailed alternative to President Bush’s preemptive war theory for the eradication of terrorism (the most profound issue of our age). Others have Clark’s idea — military might plus shrewd global team building equals security — but he’s the only one who’s done it on the battlefield, and who has the street credentials and stripes to take on the commander in chief.
But winning presidential elections isn’t about resumes or personal track records. It isn’t about brains born with or fortunes amassed or medals for bravery won. It’s about coming across as level-headed, decent and sane. It’s about not seeming like you didn’t quite know what you were getting into when you decided to run. It’s about seeming well-informed and comfortable in areas outside of your expertise, and at ease on political center stage. Military and business heroes rarely make the transition well: Ross Perot, John Glenn and Al Haig are a few names that come to mind right away.
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Clark could defy that recent history. He’s already shown enormous potential. Many of my colleagues are snickering at our Newsweek poll, but it shows something important: With Al Gore and Hillary Rodham Clinton on the sidelines (where, I think, they are destined to stay) this race is wide open. More than that, Clark can move quickly into a real lead in the national polls if he does well at events such as the one this week in New York.
Democrats desperately want a winner and they think they may have one in Clark — if he’s for real. That means, among other things, that he has to cure himself of a handicap they call in baseball “rabbit ears.” A batter with “rabbit ears” is one who hears every jibe and taunt emanating from the opposing team’s dugout. You can’t get a hit if your mind is elsewhere than on the ball. Clark thinks he somehow can ensure, by the force of his own personality, that every story about him in every medium will fully reflect his views, nuance and all. He thinks he can get every opponent to acknowledge the subtleties of his statements. He has to learn to forget it, focusing on what you can control — what you say, not what they say.

HOWARD DEAN

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For the first time in months, I’ve detected worry and even tinny bravado in the spinning I hear from Burlington, Vt. Dean has had an amazing few months. But as the race begins in earnest, his continued missteps (and his testy defense of them), and the withering crossfire he’s absorbed from rivals (notably John Kerry and Dick Gephardt) have left his handlers worried. Now that his expectations have been raised to the sky, especially in New Hampshire, he faces the task of defeating Kerry handily there. Anything less, ironically, will be considered something of a defeat.
And the advent of Clark has really cost the Dean campaign, psychologically if in no other way just yet. For a long time, the former Vermont governor was the New New Thing, on the Net and in the world of politics. He doesn’t feel so new right now, and Dean Campaign Manager Joe Trippi told me he was impressed by the digital savvy of the Draft Clark crowd. Before, there was no obvious, consensus answer to Dean, organizationally and emotionally, no one party insiders (especially Clintonistas) could agree on. There may be one now, and Dean has to hope that Clark implodes.

[BIO's on the other candidate's are continued on MSNBC]
 

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Clark announced his "Job Creation Plan" today in a speech in NY. You can read the full speech at www.clark04.com. It is simple and straightforward for people to get their arms around but it is also quite specific and contrasted to the current policy. In sum, he'd rollback the $100 bil in tax cuts for those making over $200,000 and put 40bil into specific aprts of homeland security, 40 bil to help the states in specific ways and 20bil for specific incentives for comapany's to hire new workers. This is just the start, it's not his complete economic plan, but it's a good start. And I just love the way he makes the case every times he speaks that it's not only not unpatriotic to criticize the Prez, but it's the height of patriotism to speak out against a failed leader. Clark says "if there's one point I want to make in this campaign, it's this: Nothing is more American; nothing is more patriotic than speaking out, questioning authority and holding your leaders accountable." RIGHT ON GENERAL! Read the entire speech, it's brilliant.

I don't agree that tomorrow is "make or break". It's only "break" if he falls apart which he most obviously will not do. This is no Arnold here. Not even Ross Perot. Clark is brilliant, articulate, precise and even passionate. People will see this. He will also be a very good debater. He was on the debate team at West Point. He is more than comfortable in front of the camera. I do not worry about Clark's articulation skills.
 

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Bump.
Clark down to +190 odds at Pinnacle.

So which is it anyway? Dems are trying to make Clark out to be really a Republican whilst Republicans are saying Clark is a Bill & Hillary puppet.
 

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D2, I think it's both. The next few weeks are crucial to Gen. Clark. The Elephants are afraid of him and he is getting mixed reviews, depending where you look.

http://www.thedmonline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/09/26/3f73e94f7fe56

Gergen: War in Iraq race against time

by Christopher Lomax
Special to The DM
September 26, 2003


At a press conferences leading up to his lecture at the Ford Center for the Performing Arts, David Gergen reflected on Ole Miss and current leaders.

Gergen, adviser to four presidents, including Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton, spoke to reporters following a meeting with the McDonnell-Barksdale honor students. Gergen spent time watching a discussion of the Democratic presidential candidates' debate with the students of the honor college.

"I was in agreement with most of the students in that I don't think that General Clark was a bright and shining star," said Gergen.

The long-time advisor and previous editor of the U.S. News and World Report said the students discussed the democratic candidates at length and the students and he all agreed the three candidates that will be left standing would be Howard Dean, former General Wesley Clark and Dick Gephardt when the primary begins.

"I believe that Richard Gephardt debated well and is emerging," Gergen said.

Gergen threw out a surprise prediction when he said that he still does not rule Al Gore out of the 2004 presidential election if no clear front-runner emerges.

When asked about the current situation concerning President Bush and the war in Iraq, Gergen said, "We have the tiger by the tail, and we can't let go. We must see it through."

The war in Iraq is a race against time, according to Gergen. The United States must be mostly out of Iraq in a year, or Gergen believes the Iraqis will turn on America even more than they are now.

As a credible adviser of Presidents of the United States, Gergen is in a unique place to comment on the current President Bush and his performance.

Gergen called President Bush "a top down, command and control leader with a lets take the hill attitude."

He compares Bush to a painting the president has hanging in his office of a lone cowboy taking a hill.

"The lone cowboy attitude worked well following Sept. 11," Gergen said. "But, it was not the best strategy for going to war."

Gergen compared Bush to Clinton. Bush is a president who "I wish his curiosity was as good as his character."

He said Clinton was a man who did not have the best character, but he had the curiosity Gergen insists.

Gergen, who was brought to the university to give the inaugural speech for the Lott Leadership Institute, tied these national figures to the students at Ole Miss.

"When you are young, it is important to be challenged, and it's okay to go to the extremes," Gergen said about choosing political parties and pushing the limits to those choices.

He also said it is a good thing to be passionate, but he stresses the importance of sharing that passion with someone who shares views different than one's own.

Education was another area of leadership Gergen pushed. However, he said there is more to education than school.

"Prepare yourself for a job but also prepare yourself for life," Gergen said. "Take a business class, but then take a class in poetry."

Gergen expressed his excitement for visiting Ole Miss and his excitement for how far Ole Miss and the South have come.

"I see the walls coming down around Ole Miss and Mississippi, and North Carolina, where I am from. The walls are coming down between the South and the country," Gergen said.

"As these walls come down, we begin to lead the nation and the world."
 

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Clark looks like the real contender & should win in a landslide. The more Bush talks the more BS that is spewed.

I feel sorry for whoever takes over and has to try and clean this mess up.
 

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